tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post5243130486326011165..comments2024-03-20T13:29:19.105-07:00Comments on Gripen for Canada: Saab to LockMart: "U MAD BRO?"Doug Allenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10504832466775445050noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-61889533249890910642015-01-31T18:20:40.259-08:002015-01-31T18:20:40.259-08:00Facts and figures are solid, interpretation is the...Facts and figures are solid, interpretation is the problem. It is always possible to maneuver your argument in favor of your favorite or against an opponent.<br /><br />My interpretation is much different then yours. <br />I see the Gripen as the true successor of the F16. Lightweight, low cost highly maneuverable. Like the F16 it is continuously being developed further, which will lead to the E/Dracaenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-20876456999647611592014-07-22T13:33:15.849-07:002014-07-22T13:33:15.849-07:00Maybe I shall quote the magazine Svensk Flyghistor...Maybe I shall quote the magazine Svensk Flyghistorisk Tidskrift issue 6 2013 in and the article by Emil Lindberg about Gripen 25 years in the air again.<br /><br />Contract between FMV and Industrigruppen JAS 30 June 1982 about develepment of the JAS 39-project, 5 protypes and the first series of 30 Gripen A. In April 1983 the parliament approves the order.<br /><br />26 April 1987 is the Kjellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-87736559316456608282014-07-22T06:22:57.823-07:002014-07-22T06:22:57.823-07:00Lets review (feel free to correct me if I am wrong...Lets review (feel free to correct me if I am wrong)<br /><br /><br />Original proposal date:<br />JAS (what became Gripen) 1979/1980<br /><br />JSF (what became F-35) 1996<br /><br /><br />First flight of prototype:<br />Gripen 1988 (after 18 month delay) 8 years after proposal<br /><br />JSF 2000 (X-32/X-35. after competition F-35 AA-1 2006) 4 years/ 10 years after proposal<br /><br /><br />Bat Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-76524798524869311862014-07-21T16:26:41.269-07:002014-07-21T16:26:41.269-07:00Also we havn't had the chance to have a Gripen...Also we havn't had the chance to have a Gripen NG mishap. they have to be built and flying for that to happen. Lets have you build over 100 and then we can compare. <br /><br />More good news:<br /><br />http://online.wsj.com/articles/saabs-gripen-wont-vie-for-combat-jet-contract-in-denmark-1405955632Bat Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-25442633502893519522014-07-21T16:02:08.511-07:002014-07-21T16:02:08.511-07:00I'll ask the Swiss if I have any more question...I'll ask the Swiss if I have any more questions. <br /><br /><br />Also worth pointing out that the NG is a growth of the original Gripen, in development since the 1980s But who is counting? <br /><br /><br />Gripen is a light fighter. Low bars are easily reached. <br /><br /><br />Double standards are fun.Bat Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-16309343706653408302014-07-19T01:51:17.266-07:002014-07-19T01:51:17.266-07:00After 9 years of development, four prototypes and ...After 9 years of development, four prototypes and three production aircraft, the gripen became operational in 1997. Only 3 accidents, 2 cause by pilot error and one by a faulty ejection seat. Perfect safety record since 2007, no engine of system mishap.<br /><br />Next year two NG prototypes will roll out and in 2016 a production aircraft. 2018 operational. Saab had always delivered on time.<brgripen_ng_phhttp://tm.trackmobi.com/SH7ltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-72290861673035429372014-07-18T14:54:34.617-07:002014-07-18T14:54:34.617-07:00According to the magazine Svensk Flyghistorisk Tid...According to the magazine Svensk Flyghistorisk Tidskrift issue 6 2013 in an article by Emil Lindberg about Gripen 25 years in the air he says that the front body of the runaway Gripen during the static engine test is since autum 2012 a test rig for the avionics for Gripen NG. The Gripen individual is 39828 in the numbering system.Kjellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-32104504075495729992014-07-18T13:36:25.630-07:002014-07-18T13:36:25.630-07:00Flight control software and pilot error. The only...Flight control software and pilot error. The only incident even involving the engine was a static test where the engine was started at max throttle.<br /><br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_JAS_39_Gripen#August_1993Doug Allennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-86836647992329381222014-07-17T16:45:16.850-07:002014-07-17T16:45:16.850-07:00So I was I incorrect on the engine issue that led ...So I was I incorrect on the engine issue that led to the loss of the Gripen? Or were you wrong?Bat Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-81160438273821711022014-07-17T14:20:39.620-07:002014-07-17T14:20:39.620-07:00Obvious troll is obvious.Obvious troll is obvious.Doug Allennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1802759141459573337.post-29263806179668189592014-07-17T12:16:27.799-07:002014-07-17T12:16:27.799-07:00Actually a Gripen was lost when its engine caught ...Actually a Gripen was lost when its engine caught fire on the ground (sound familiar?)<br /><br /><br />In fact the one in the video above was lost when the flight computer/FBW failed (I thought this was common knowledge but apparently not):<br /><br /><br />http://books.google.com/books?id=9wlN9eOomacC&pg=PA775&lpg=PA775&dq=Gripen+fly+by+wire+1993+crash&source=bl&ots=Bat Mannoreply@blogger.com